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I was thinking of building a more Raven guard like version of khan, (sans bike) using his rules, and I noticed he gets hit and run, for himself and his attatched unit. I know its probably unfluffy, but the rules seem to suggest that without bikes (i.e. moondraken) he confers this to the squad he's attatched to.

My own spin was maybe Khan as an ic added to a sneaky fist type close combat squad of scouts. It would be interesting to see guys on foot bail a close combat and move behind some difficult terrain.

I just think it stretches things a bit to have infantry move up to 18" ?

kor'sarro khan gets hit and run and furious charge whether he's on monndraken or not.



This would confer it to any squad hes attached to (like shrikes infiltrate)

Hit and run can make an infantry unit run 3d6" so yeah up to 18" and isn't slowed by difficult terrain

Killer! This seems a bit underhanded in a way, the shock of infantry hiting and running with scouts and furious charge has me grinning. Now, to make a smarine captain conversion...

I fogrot to mention also, I play mostly 1500 points and below, so the lower points cost of a named figure is a consideration.

Now we expect pics of a converted running Captain


This would also save you from using the crappy model.....

what i would do is try to find the vanguard sgt with relic blade figure, throw a normal back pack on and you'll have an intantly cool Kor'sarro khan. (thats what i plan on doing anyways)

korsarro khan has plenty of bonuses he's cheap packs a punch and the outflanking transports can really help. He is however unreliable with outflank being determined by a d6 and all, and the base model having to foot slog is also a disadvantage. However go nuts, he's a great character and theirs several ways to boost him up futher.

(but don't do the land raider outflanking with terminators and korsarro khan as my friend tried, cause it generally doesn't work)

Thanks guys. I'm really considering integrating marine bikes, and cutting lose my 5 assault marines+shrike model. Part of this is I want to change my FA slots to 2 ls storms, and a full scout bike squad. I know bikes are a little less RG, but I'm working on getting transpo for scouts.

Also, I like the idea of having both a mounted and unmounted khan figure so I can take SM Bikes as troops. Its difficult to balance my desire to run a 50/50 scouts to tactical marine composition in my troops, when rhinos are such a cheap upgrade.

You know Fhadhq, I was really disappointed with the model too. Its all well in good to have top knots, and whatever, but why not put him on a bike? seems like a total no brainer to me. + he is so stylistically dissimilar to all other marines. I hated the ragnar model too. I always laugh when folks paint his hair the wrong color!

Hey Jasp! I'll look into the veteran sgt+relic blade, sounds cool. Will post progress soon.

Hey how about the emperor's champion out of the black templar line?

Does the veteran sgt with relic blade come in a single model, or will I need to buy the set?

I'm sensing the desire on my part to kitbash... again!

Am i the only one who doesnt mind the Khan mini? lol

Nah barn, its a cool mini by itself, just it would be difficult to see him with a vanilla squad of tacs, ya know? Also, it really cheesed me a bit that there was no bike... that's probably not the sculpters choice so much as cost/benefit analysis.

Its like pb without J or Shrike without mc lclaws, or like shirley without her temple... ya know? (about the lack of bike.)

lol yeah i understand

i know somebits sites like bitsandkits do metal models, (mainly the metal sternguard and vanguard) although the sergeant is a really popular model. can't wait to see what you come up with though