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PostPosted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:00 pm 
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I have a question, can you combat squad a unit that Shrike inflitrates with. I know he allows infiltrate to the unit he joins, if you combat squad do they both inflitrate? I ask this because on a list they are 1 unit, and then only when they hit the table are they now 2...so just curious.

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firefox710 wrote:
I have a question, can you combat squad a unit that Shrike infiltrates with. I know he allows infiltrate to the unit he joins, if you combat squad do they both infiltrate? I ask this because on a list they are 1 unit, and then only when they hit the table are they now 2...so just curious.




IMHO, shrike has to be present, to grant the benefits. therfore combat-squad may get you in a debate, since you can't cut shrike in halves.

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Fhadhq wrote:
firefox710 wrote:
I have a question, can you combat squad a unit that Shrike infiltrates with. I know he allows infiltrate to the unit he joins, if you combat squad do they both infiltrate? I ask this because on a list they are 1 unit, and then only when they hit the table are they now 2...so just curious.


Rules questions do belong into "Rules of engagement" :wink:

IMHO, shrike has to be present, to grant the benefits. therfore combat-squad may get you in a debate, since you can't cut shrike in halves.


combat squadding is done in the deployment phase of the game which in this case is before infiltration moves.... but seen as though they don't deploy untill the infiltration phase due to shirke, i would say that they would be able to (as it isn't a scout move which is done AFTER the deployment phase) so take the drop pods example, they are combat squadded when deployed (when the pod hits the dirt) not at the start of the game. Using this as an example its easy to say a squad can infiltrate 18" from an enemy as per the rules, but seen as though that is when the squad is actually deployed, you can choose to combat squad them if you wish.


sorry for the round about way of explaining it

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The decision to combat squad is at the time of deployment.

The combat squads are considered two seperate units from that point on.

(Codex: Space Marines, page 51)

Shrike can only join one unit at a time. ICs are joined to squads when they are deployed within coherency.

(BRB, page 48 )

Therefore, if you split the squad, only the half deployed with Shrike within coherency will reap the benfits of his special rules.


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Fhadhq wrote:
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... since you can't cut shrike in halves.


The Khorne Berzerker with the chainsword might disagree.

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Voloch wrote:
Fhadhq wrote:
... since you can't cut shrike in halves.


The Khorne Berzerker with the chainsword might disagree.


Khornates are too clumsy and slow to stand a chance against a Raven :wink:

And when did those BFTBG crying badly painted victims wield chain-swords? Wasn't it chain-axe?



We should return to the OP's question .

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