Battle forged - heroes

White Raven Jaspercation · **Posted:** Wed Sep 02, 2009 6:58 pm

Right as much as it burns my head just thinking about it, this came up in a game i had with evolved

if you give a tactical squad (probably lascanon and meltagun) the tank hunter special rule (because of sicarius' battle forged hereos rule) if you combat squadded the unit would each combat squad get it or just one of them.

discuss?

Fhadhq · **Posted:** Wed Sep 02, 2009 8:41 pm

As Sicarius adds his "special" to a Tactical squad, I would think its a Tactical squad that benefits.
A combat squadded tactical squad isnt the same as a Tactical squad.
IMO the USR is granted to the whole squad.
Would fit with the common approach on squads and their training as a whole unit, rather than beeing
2 units merged to form a bigger unit which isnt the case for SM.

White Raven Earthen · **Posted:** Thu Sep 03, 2009 5:38 am

Yeah, both combat squads get it. You choose his special like a librarian does his powers.

Before the match. So, you do the assigning of special traits to an entire squad far earlier than you ever deploy them.

Aldebaran · **Posted:** Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:08 am

Hey, this is a good hack

A lascannon squad with meltagun, combi-melta, splitted, one staying at range, the other forwarding in a Razorback..

Sound good.

White Raven Jaspercation · **Posted:** Thu Sep 03, 2009 12:26 pm

well just the idea of a meltagun with str 8 ap 1 with +1 on the vehicle damage chart, and 2d6 armour penetration within 6 inches appeals to me

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still all this doesn't stop sicarius having a str 10 ap 2 pie plate thrown on him and being instantly killed, (even with the invulnerable and his command squads feel no pain

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White Raven CleanRabbit · **Posted:** Fri Sep 04, 2009 8:04 am

Well it's down to 'when does the rule get applied'

If the rule is applied to the unit before deployment (which it is in my opinion), then both combat squads would get the special rule.
If someone can find a rule that says that special rules are applied after deployment, then only one combat squad would get it.

CR

Aldebaran · **Posted:** Fri Sep 04, 2009 10:21 am

hey,

this should work always with a Tactical in a Drop pod,
as you can combat squad after the beginning of the game

Too bad you can't use your heavy at the turn you drop...

White Raven Jaspercation · **Posted:** Fri Sep 04, 2009 4:00 pm

Aldebaran wrote:

hey,

this should work always with a Tactical in a Drop pod,
as you can combat squad after the beginning of the game

Too bad you can't use your heavy at the turn you drop...

still may work out if you have a lascanon, meltagun, and sergeant with combi melta/powerfist. it's alot of points to be throwing at a certain problem though.

White Raven CleanRabbit · **Posted:** Sun Sep 06, 2009 9:10 am

White Raven Jaspercation wrote:

Aldebaran wrote:

hey,

this should work always with a Tactical in a Drop pod,
as you can combat squad after the beginning of the game

Too bad you can't use your heavy at the turn you drop...

still may work out if you have a lascanon, meltagun, and sergeant with combi melta/powerfist. it's alot of points to be throwing at a certain problem though.

If you're podding in a tac squad, you dont need the long-range power of a Lascannon, take a MM instead

CR

White Raven Jaspercation · **Posted:** Sun Sep 06, 2009 10:33 pm

Too true, CR chances are that squads not gonna see much of the next turn if at all so the heavy weapon is almost superfluous.

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